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#1 User is offline   Ticked@TinselTown 

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  Posted 23 November 2018 - 01:34 AM

Supreme Court's future rides on Ginsburg's health
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Some offered to donate their ribs, others recommended cloaking her in bubble wrap.
The reactions following news that Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg had fractured three ribs in a fall at her office on Nov. 7 may have been made in jest, but some no doubt were rooted in real worry.

At 85, Ginsburg is the oldest member of the Supreme Court, and this month's health scare left many wondering if she'll really serve for five more years as promised.

But she's not the only one in recovery mode.

Washington is slowly recuperating from the bitter battle over Justice Brett Kavanaugh's confirmation. Another vacancy on the bench would surely lead to an explosive fight with liberals trying in vain to prevent President Trump from turning the court into a conservative stronghold with a third nominee.

The repercussions of Trump appointees are why some on the left have criticized Ginsburg and 80-year-old Justice Stephen Breyer - another aging member of the court's liberal wing - for not stepping down when former President Obama was in office.
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Seems they're starting to get ready to feast on her carcass...

The picture that goes with this article makes her look like a vulture...
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Posted 23 November 2018 - 01:39 AM

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For now, supporters say Ginsburg isn't going anywhere.

"She's too tough to have her health stop her during the age of Trump," Fredrickson said. "There's too much is at stake for our Constitution."


Uhm, yeah, except Ginsburg and the leftards ARE the threat to the Constitution based on how they sat silent in the face of Obama's attacks upon it and violating it so often during his tenure.

The Leftards disgust me and this woman should be retired.
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Posted 23 November 2018 - 01:55 AM

As I've said so often before, I couldn't care less whether the SCOTUS is packed with leftwingers or rightwingers, Democrats or Republicans, etc. What matters to me is that when they're on the job they follow the constitution. And whether leftwingers/Democrats are willing to admit it or not, that describes both Gorsuch and Kavanaugh to a "T", and I fully expect any further Trump selections will be the same.

And the sooner we're rid of people like Ginsburg (and Breyer for that matter) the sooner this country will finally get back on track.

B)
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Posted 23 November 2018 - 03:55 AM

View PostTicked@TinselTown, on 23 November 2018 - 01:34 AM, said:

The picture that goes with this article makes her look like a vulture...


Well.... :whistling:
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Posted 23 November 2018 - 03:57 AM

View PostMontyPython, on 23 November 2018 - 01:55 AM, said:

As I've said so often before, I couldn't care less whether the SCOTUS is packed with leftwingers or rightwingers, Democrats or Republicans, etc. What matters to me is that when they're on the job they follow the constitution. And whether leftwingers/Democrats are willing to admit it or not, that describes both Gorsuch and Kavanaugh to a "T", and I fully expect any further Trump selections will be the same.

And the sooner we're rid of people like Ginsburg (and Breyer for that matter) the sooner this country will finally get back on track.

B)

It shouldn't matter who appoints them, I agree. But in practice it does. One "side" desires an activist court to write laws and implement policy. The other "side" periodically wanders into that territory, but generally not.
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Posted 23 November 2018 - 03:58 AM

View PostMontyPython, on 23 November 2018 - 01:55 AM, said:

And the sooner we're rid of people like Ginsburg (and Breyer for that matter) the sooner this country will finally get back on track.


I may be headed to New Orleans in March for work. I'll see what kind of voodoo doll I can have made
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Posted 23 November 2018 - 06:02 AM

But Chief Justice Roberts said there's no such thing as an Obama or Trump judge.
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Posted 23 November 2018 - 06:19 AM

Does this cloak of bubble wrap include her airway?
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Posted 23 November 2018 - 06:32 AM

View PostBen Cranklin, on 23 November 2018 - 06:19 AM, said:

Does this cloak of bubble wrap include her airway?

:D
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Posted 23 November 2018 - 08:33 AM

View PostHowsithangin, on 23 November 2018 - 03:57 AM, said:

It shouldn't matter who appoints them, I agree. But in practice it does. One "side" desires an activist court to write laws and implement policy. The other "side" periodically wanders into that territory, but generally not.


True. Sad, but true.


View PostHowsithangin, on 23 November 2018 - 03:58 AM, said:

I may be headed to New Orleans in March for work. I'll see what kind of voodoo doll I can have made


:giggle:


View PostBARman29, on 23 November 2018 - 06:02 AM, said:

But Chief Justice Roberts said there's no such thing as an Obama or Trump judge.


Yeah, his head is firmly lodged up his posterior.

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Posted 23 November 2018 - 09:12 AM

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The repercussions of Trump appointees are why some on the left have criticized Ginsburg and 80-year-old Justice Stephen Breyer - another aging member of the court's liberal wing - for not stepping down when former President Obama was in office.


But remember there are no "obama appointees or obama judges".....



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Posted 23 November 2018 - 09:26 AM

http://www.thepubliceditor.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/RBG_Weekend_At_Ginsburgs.jpg
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Posted 23 November 2018 - 09:37 AM

View PostMontyPython, on 23 November 2018 - 01:55 AM, said:

As I've said so often before, I couldn't care less whether the SCOTUS is packed with leftwingers or rightwingers, Democrats or Republicans, etc. What matters to me is that when they're on the job they follow the constitution. And whether leftwingers/Democrats are willing to admit it or not, that describes both Gorsuch and Kavanaugh to a "T", and I fully expect any further Trump selections will be the same.

And the sooner we're rid of people like Ginsburg (and Breyer for that matter) the sooner this country will finally get back on track.

B)


The only track leftists want to follow is directly against the Constitution. They want to flip this nation to Marx, nowhere in my reading have I seen any collectivist leanings in our Constitution. That's only imposed by lefties.

Oh and whether they are right wing or left wing, you would never be able to tell if it weren't for lefties. They flip the script so you can call someone that follows the law as a "right winger".

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Posted 23 November 2018 - 09:50 AM

I think it resides more on the integrity and fidelity of the justices to the Constitution as written and conceived
Roberts has shown us that
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Posted 23 November 2018 - 10:21 AM

View PostTaggart Transcontinental, on 23 November 2018 - 09:37 AM, said:

The only track leftists want to follow is directly against the Constitution. They want to flip this nation to Marx, nowhere in my reading have I seen any collectivist leanings in our Constitution. That's only imposed by lefties.

Oh and whether they are right wing or left wing, you would never be able to tell if it weren't for lefties. They flip the script so you can call someone that follows the law as a "right winger".


Yup, I agree. I'm not sure if I made myself clear earlier: I wouldn't care how leftwing any supreme court justice was in their private life and beliefs, IF they would strictly follow the constitution while on the job. Unfortunately, leftist justices rarely do that. For the most part they prefer judicial activism, and therefore can't be trusted on judicial matters.

B)
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Posted 23 November 2018 - 10:28 AM

View PostMontyPython, on 23 November 2018 - 10:21 AM, said:

Yup, I agree. I'm not sure if I made myself clear earlier: I wouldn't care how leftwing any supreme court justice was in their private life and beliefs, IF they would strictly follow the constitution while on the job. Unfortunately, leftist justices rarely do that. For the most part they prefer judicial activism, and therefore can't be trusted on judicial matters.

B)


You were just fine, the problem is leftist do not have private and professional lives, they have one life and they impose their views on all others.
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Posted 23 November 2018 - 11:13 AM

85 years old, broken ribs, cancer... Doesn't look good for the America hating communist left.
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Posted 23 November 2018 - 11:39 AM

America's future rests on Ginsberg's health.

FIFY.
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Posted 23 November 2018 - 01:35 PM

View PostTicked@TinselTown, on 23 November 2018 - 01:34 AM, said:

Supreme Court's future rides on Ginsburg's health
The Hill - Lydia Wheeler - link

Some offered to donate their ribs, others recommended cloaking her in bubble wrap.
The reactions following news that Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg had fractured three ribs in a fall at her office on Nov. 7 may have been made in jest, but some no doubt were rooted in real worry.

At 85, Ginsburg is the oldest member of the Supreme Court, and this month's health scare left many wondering if she'll really serve for five more years as promised.

But she's not the only one in recovery mode.

Washington is slowly recuperating from the bitter battle over Justice Brett Kavanaugh's confirmation. Another vacancy on the bench would surely lead to an explosive fight with liberals trying in vain to prevent President Trump from turning the court into a conservative stronghold with a third nominee.

The repercussions of Trump appointees are why some on the left have criticized Ginsburg and 80-year-old Justice Stephen Breyer - another aging member of the court's liberal wing - for not stepping down when former President Obama was in office.
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Seems they're starting to get ready to feast on her carcass...

The picture that goes with this article makes her look like a vulture...

As to why ginsberg waited-remember EVERYONE, including rbg, thought the hildebeast was going to be the next President and rbg wanted the honor of having her successor nominated by the beast. Didn't work out that way. I imagine she is wondering if she can make it until 2025...
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Posted 23 November 2018 - 03:49 PM

View PostHowsithangin, on 23 November 2018 - 03:57 AM, said:

It shouldn't matter who appoints them, I agree. But in practice it does. One "side" desires an activist court to write laws and implement policy. The other "side" periodically wanders into that territory, but generally not.


In practice, it ALSO matters just as much who controls the Senate for confirmation. The two most egregious recent examples - The judge who overturned Mississippi's abortion law and the judge who overturned Trump's asylum order - were both nominated by Obama AND confirmed when the Dems still controlled the senate. I wonder if either of them would have made it through the confirmation in a Republican senate?

THAT SAID, while it DOES matter who nominates/confirms them, it's no guarantee of anything either, especially the ones nominated/confirmed by Republicans. (Roberts was nominated by Bush and confirmed by a republican Senate.) It is also a truism that MOST justices tend to become more liberal the longer they've been on the bench. FiveThirtyEight has some nice graphs of this but attributes it to "age"; I'm more inclined to believe it's just human nature to become more complacent the longer one does the same job day-after-day:

https://fivethirtyeight.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/roeder-scoutusaging.png?w=575

https://fivethirtyeight.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/roeder-scotusaging-2.png?w=575

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