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#1 User is offline   MTP Reggie 

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  Posted 24 November 2018 - 08:42 AM

A Man's Last Letter Before Being Killed on a Forbidden Island
John Allen Chau, 26, of Washington State loved climbing mountains, camping, hiking, canoeing and seeing the world.
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By Jeffrey Gettleman, Hari Kumar and Kai Schultz
Nov. 23, 2018
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Before he was killed by an isolate d tribe on a remote Indian Ocean island, John Allen Chau, a young American on a self-propelled mission to spread Christianity, revealed two things: that he was willing to die, and that he was scared. "You guys might think I'm crazy in all this," he wrote in a last letter to his parents. "But I think it's worth it to declare Jesus to these people." Part letter, part journal, in 13 pages with many cross-outs and messy scrawl, Mr. Chau laid out a disturbing account of his final days on North Sentinel Island in the Andaman Sea east of India. He tried to give gifts. A boy shot an arrow at him. He expressed fear, fatalism, frustration and some humor.

The people Mr. Chau chose for his mission are among the most impenetrable communities in the world, known for their intense hostility to outsiders. They have killed or tried to kill many outsiders who attempted to step on their rugged island 700 miles off India's mainland, where they are one of the last undiluted hunter and gatherer societies. On Friday, Indian police officials shared Mr. Chau's last writing, part of which has been published by other news organizations over the past two days.

North Sentinel Island is a far-flung territory of India, and for years the Indian authorities have declared it off limits in an attempt to preserve its culture. The Indian Navy patrols the waters around it, making sure no one gets close. But that didn't stop Mr. Chau. Last week, he paid some fishermen to take him to the island. He set off from Port Blair, the Andaman chain's main port, under the cover of darkness.

"The Milky Way was above and God Himself was shielding us from the Coast Guard and Navy patrols," he wrote. Mr. Chau, 26, from Washington State, was an ambitious adventurer. He loved climbing mountains, camping in isolated places, hiking, canoeing, seeing the world. A graduate of Oral Roberts University, he was fixated on spreading Christianity to North Sentinel, telling friends he had been working for years to make the right contacts. It seems that he was working on his own and that no large organization had sent him. For this mission, he made sure to take his waterproof Bible. But the fishermen refused to land him on North Sentinel. The last fishermen who accidentally drifted ashore, in 2006, were killed. So Mr. Chau arranged for the boat to take him close and then jumped in a kayak and paddled in. His first moments didn't go so well.

"Two armed Sentinelese came rushing out yelling," he wrote in the letter. "They had two arrows each, unstrung, until they got closer. I hollered, 'My name is John, I love you and Jesus loves you.' " He gave them some fish, but the islanders kept coming toward him: "I turned and paddled like I never have in my life," he said. "I felt some fear but mainly was disappointed," he admitted. "They didn't accept me right away."

Mr. Chau was trying to accomplish the impossible. The people on North Sentinel have not accepted anyone outside their society. Anthropologists, filmmakers and government officials have tried to approach them. Just about all have been driven back by bows and arrows. Some years ago, a few anthropologists managed to give the islanders some coconuts, but that was about the extent of the contact. The North Sentinel people have sealed themselves off from the modern world. They hunt turtles and pigs, wear loincloths and live in huts. Beyond that, very little is known.

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Posted 24 November 2018 - 08:44 AM

View Postarticle, on 24 November 2018 - 08:42 AM, said:

"Two armed Sentinelese came rushing out yelling," he wrote in the letter. "They had two arrows each, unstrung, until they got closer. I hollered, 'My name is John, I love you and Jesus loves you.' " He gave them some fish, but the islanders kept coming toward him: "I turned and paddled like I never have in my life," he said. "I felt some fear but mainly was disappointed," he admitted. "They didn't accept me right away."

Mr. Chau was trying to accomplish the impossible. The people on North Sentinel have not accepted anyone outside their society. Anthropologists, filmmakers and government officials have tried to approach them. Just about all have been driven back by bows and arrows.


This kid was an absolute idiot regardless of his intentions.

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
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Posted 24 November 2018 - 09:08 AM

Trying to spread Christianity to savages who don't speak his language and probably think the airplanes overhead are Gods?

Not the brightest bulb on the porch.

Nominated for a Darwin Award.
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Posted 24 November 2018 - 11:03 AM

View PostMTP Reggie, on 24 November 2018 - 08:44 AM, said:

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

That's the first thing that went through my mind...










...which beats an arrow. :ph34r:
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Posted 24 November 2018 - 02:03 PM

View Postgrimreefer, on 24 November 2018 - 11:03 AM, said:

That's the first thing that went through my mind...










...which beats an arrow. :ph34r:

:biglaugh: ....which was the last thing that went through his!
As a Christian, his attitude is somewhat appalling to me as I see it as evangelical virtue signalling. Someone losing his life trying to witness in communist China is a lot different than someone who forced himself on people who don't want anything to do with him.
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Posted 24 November 2018 - 02:12 PM

No surprise to me that a self-righteous virtue-signaling moron hails from WA state. I'm surrounded by them. But I admit I am somewhat surprised by the "Christian" angle, since for the most part Christians are considered the "bad guys" around here.

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Posted 24 November 2018 - 05:22 PM

VERY Mixed opinions, here.

On the one hand, as a Christian I know I'm supposed to buy into the "Go Ye into All the World" thing. Yeah, okay, up to a point. Or, maybe, beyond that point. Maybe it isn't supposed to be 'safe' or 'easy'. I dunno.

On the other hand, freely persuading people is one thing; going into an are 'forbidden' by the government is another. And I'm sitting on my hands trying not to invoke the Star Trek "Prime Directive" here.

And on that same hand, speaking of "freely persuading people", I am mindful that most of us here are Christians because, at some point in History, our ancestors were forcibly converted rather than 'persuaded'. Especially true if you're of Germanic descent (Massacre of Verden, anyone?). Even more true that in many places you had to be not just christian but the right "brand" of christian (Albigensian crusades, anyone?)(Or how about Irish Catholics v. UK Protestants?).

These days? On the one hand, I'm dismayed by declining church membership; I thing it's a sign of where the country is headed in general and I'm not optimistic. On the other hand, I *LIKE* knowing that fellow churchgoers are there because they WANT to be, rather than merely doing it for form or under pressure.

“Give me a one-handed Economist. All my economists say 'on the one hand...', then 'but on the other...?br /> ― Harry S. Truman. LOL.


This guy in the story? I dunno. He could have been merely pridefully "virtue signalling", and "Pride goeth before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall." - Proverbs 18:18 KJV. OR he could have been fatally naive in the same was as those idiots who run off to join the Taliban or whatever thinking that just because they can sing kumbaya they're not going to get beheaded. OR he could have been genuinely sincere and felt "called".

Without knowing the guy personally to where I could judge "motive", I won't pass judgement. And, after all, one of my favorite books growing up was the story of "Brother Andrew" smuggling bibles to behind the Iron Curtain during the cold war. He wasn't legally supposed to be doing that either.

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Me? I wish I'd been old enough to assist "Brother Andrew". Not because I'm especially evangelical, but because as a contrarian there's something especially satisfying about pulling one over on the 'Authorities' in a very 4Q2 sort of way. To each his own. It takes all kinds.
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Posted 24 November 2018 - 05:46 PM

My take is that he thought his actions were more important than the outcomes.
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Posted 24 November 2018 - 06:34 PM

I am always shocked at the positions young people will put themselves into after convincing themselves that their cause is righteous and therefore they will be protected.

As a Christian, I know that God wants me to speak about my faith and share the strength that I gain from that faith in His eternal love.

As a cognizant human being, I know that there are places in this world that are not hospitable to those who are not indigenous and when faced with the challenge of not speaking a common language or even a basic belief system, the choice to throw caution to the wind and place such a burden on God's protection by wading headlong into a very dangerous situation is like purchasing an express ticket to meet Him face to face.

While I am sure that this young man is now enjoying the beauty of his eternal life, I lament the fact that he made such poor choices and endured such fear and pain during those last days.

With that being said, Jesus suffered beyond scope for us, so perhaps this young man was proving the depth of his faith and love by doing the same things.

I don't know whether to call him brave or naïve... Perhaps both. But in the end, he's dead and his legacy is more idiocy than inspirational...
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Posted 24 November 2018 - 07:06 PM

 erp, on 24 November 2018 - 05:46 PM, said:

My take is that he thought his actions were more important than the outcomes.


With spreading bacteria and disease that these people are incapable of fighting as one of the unfortunate outcomes.
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Posted 24 November 2018 - 07:08 PM

View PostLadybird, on 24 November 2018 - 07:06 PM, said:

With spreading bacteria and disease that these people are incapable of fighting as one of the unfortunate outcomes.

Worked for the Conquistadors right?
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Posted 24 November 2018 - 07:23 PM

Excerpt from his first letter after being killed:

“Hey, you’ll never guess who greeted me at the end of the light tunnel!?br />
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Posted 24 November 2018 - 07:34 PM

View Posterp, on 24 November 2018 - 05:46 PM, said:

My take is that he thought his actions were more important than the outcomes.


The outcome (besides his death) was total failure. I seriously doubt the island savages are now considering Christianity. It's more likely they're considering what side dishes would taste best with him. Red wine or White? :lol:
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Posted 24 November 2018 - 07:42 PM

View PostLadybird, on 24 November 2018 - 07:06 PM, said:

With spreading bacteria and disease that these people are incapable of fighting as one of the unfortunate outcomes.


How do you know that the savages aren't carrying bacteria and disease that the missionary was incapable of fighting? Why do you assume the missionary is the disease threat and not the other way around?

Have you ever heard someone say "Don't drink the water in Mexico"? Gringos are not always the disease threat.
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Posted 24 November 2018 - 07:56 PM

Native wife to her husband "Now don't tell me you had missionary for lunch today."
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Posted 24 November 2018 - 08:00 PM

White guy to cannibal: "What was it like when the 'great silver bird' (airplane) crashed in the jungle?"

Cannibal: "A lot like lobster; The crust was difficult, but the meat was delicious!"

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Posted 24 November 2018 - 10:45 PM

View PostMontyPython, on 24 November 2018 - 02:12 PM, said:

No surprise to me that a self-righteous virtue-signaling moron hails from WA state. I'm surrounded by them. But I admit I am somewhat surprised by the "Christian" angle, since for the most part Christians are considered the "bad guys" around here.

B)


I guess some guys think that there are things that are worth dying for...even if others do not...reminds me of a young idiot I knew back in 1970. People spit at him later and said some hurtful stuff when his ordeal was over but at least he,unlike several friends, didn't make the wall. maybe he should have.

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Posted 25 November 2018 - 03:47 AM

I put this guy in the same category as that couple who believed that 'evil' is a human construct that doesn't really exist, and then took a bike ride near terrorist areas and got knifed to death... or the guy who thought he could hang out with Grizzly bears and ended up as a snack. I believe there's another guy who is trying to be part of a lion pride in Africa. Tick tock. :rolleyes:
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Posted 25 November 2018 - 08:37 AM

View PostNatural Selection, on 24 November 2018 - 07:42 PM, said:

How do you know that the savages aren't carrying bacteria and disease that the missionary was incapable of fighting? Why do you assume the missionary is the disease threat and not the other way around?

Have you ever heard someone say "Don't drink the water in Mexico"? Gringos are not always the disease threat.


They have lived on this island, minding their own business, for 60,000 years. Just who is the "savage" is in the eye of the beholder.
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Posted 25 November 2018 - 08:45 AM

Stupid is as stupid does.

This moron actually believed that he was going to miraculously be the first person to get in and witness to these people when hundreds before him have tried and failed for well over a hundred years? :rofl:
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