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Posted 24 November 2018 - 11:32 AM

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The Day After Thanksgiving Wreaks Havoc on Plumbing Nationwide

The Western Journal
By Joshua Gill
November 23, 2018 at 5:46am

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As maddened shoppers swamp stores after Thanksgiving, so too will the unmentionable clog the pipes of homes countrywide during the day plumbers call “Brown Friday.?br />
Most people know of the day after Thanksgiving as Black Friday ?a day of great deals and, sometimes, greater risk to life and limb in competing with overly aggressive or desperate shoppers to lay claim to discounted goods.

Plumbers, however, have dubbed the day “Brown Friday?for the significant increase in plumbing emergencies that plague families across the country after their Thanksgiving feasts. For shoppers, it is a day of bargains and occasional combat. For plumbers, it is a day of heroic amounts of labor.

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"Brown Friday" :lol:




Still, I'd rather be plunging toilets than plunging the depths of human depravity in stores on Black Friday. But that might just be me. :drinkers:
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Posted 24 November 2018 - 11:47 AM

Brown Friday, heh. Reminds me of a comment I saw to an article online about the Japanese developing a process to extract edible protein out of human excrement. Soylent Brown is Poople!
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Posted 24 November 2018 - 11:52 AM

View PostSeverian, on 24 November 2018 - 11:47 AM, said:

Brown Friday, heh. Reminds me of a comment I saw to an article online about the Japanese developing a process to extract edible protein out of human excrement. Soylent Brown is Poople!

Thanks for the visual. :puke:
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Posted 24 November 2018 - 12:10 PM

I suspect there's a very sensible reason why it's such a popular day to call a plumber: You have to be home for a plumber and for many people this is a "free" day that isn't either a Holiday or that you don't have to take a Vacation day for. (And don't EVER call a plumber on the Weekend or Holiday.) It's a perfect day for getting things like that done that you've been putting off.
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Posted 24 November 2018 - 12:31 PM

View Postgrimreefer, on 24 November 2018 - 11:32 AM, said:

"Brown Friday" :lol: Still, I'd rather be plunging toilets than plunging the depths of human depravity in stores on Black Friday. But that might just be me. :drinkers:



View PostSeverian, on 24 November 2018 - 11:47 AM, said:

Brown Friday, heh. Reminds me of a comment I saw to an article online about the Japanese developing a process to extract edible protein out of human excrement. Soylent Brown is Poople!




View PostDean Adam Smithee, on 24 November 2018 - 12:10 PM, said:

I suspect there's a very sensible reason why it's such a popular day to call a plumber: You have to be home for a plumber and for many people this is a "free" day that isn't either a Holiday or that you don't have to take a Vacation day for. (And don't EVER call a plumber on the Weekend or Holiday.) It's a perfect day for getting things like that done that you've been putting off.


None of you read the story. It says "Brown Friday does not get its name primarily for toilet-related plumbing issues. On the whole, plumbers say the biggest issues usually involve the kitchen sink."
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Posted 24 November 2018 - 12:40 PM

 Martin, on 24 November 2018 - 12:31 PM, said:

None of you read the story. It says "Brown Friday does not get its name primarily for toilet-related plumbing issues. On the whole, plumbers say the biggest issues usually involve the kitchen sink."

Mostly from dumping cooking oil and grease into the kitchen sink. Fat, oils and grease will solidify in the pipes and clog them up.
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Posted 24 November 2018 - 12:52 PM

View PostMartin, on 24 November 2018 - 12:31 PM, said:

None of you read the story. It says "Brown Friday does not get its name primarily for toilet-related plumbing issues. On the whole, plumbers say the biggest issues usually involve the kitchen sink."


You mean, the story that had a picture of a toilet right under the headline? And which also says, "...Either your toilet has backed up or your kitchen has backed up from all the extra food,”?

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Posted 24 November 2018 - 01:14 PM

View PostMartin, on 24 November 2018 - 12:31 PM, said:

None of you read the story. It says "Brown Friday does not get its name primarily for toilet-related plumbing issues. On the whole, plumbers say the biggest issues usually involve the kitchen sink."


I'm the cook/dishwasher in my family, and this, PRECISELY, is the reason I don't allow anybody else to "help" me wash dishes. Incredibly, there are lots of people who seem to be unaware there isn't a garbage disposal in every sink. My daughter-in-law for example (bless her heart) tries to "help out" after meals, but she just scrapes whole hunks & chunks & scraps into the sink before washing! I try to pound it into her brain that stuff goes in the garbage, not down the sink. But she just never remembers. So she's just banned from the kitchen, LOL.

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Posted 24 November 2018 - 01:16 PM

View PostDean Adam Smithee, on 24 November 2018 - 12:52 PM, said:

You mean, the story that had a picture of a toilet right under the headline? And which also says, "...Either your toilet has backed up or your kitchen has backed up from all the extra food,?


Yes, the one which says "As for how to avoid Brown Friday troubles, plumbers say some of the best things to do are to keep a drain over the sink, run the disposal for longer, and keep water flowing through the disposal." You know, the kinds of things which keep your toilet from clogging.

I grant you, the story is a little ambiguous. My sink has a drain under it but I don't know how to keep a drain over it. I suspect author Joshua Gill meant to keep a screen over the drain, but that isn't what he wrote.
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Posted 24 November 2018 - 01:19 PM

View PostRock N, on 24 November 2018 - 12:40 PM, said:

Mostly from dumping cooking oil and grease into the kitchen sink. Fat, oils and grease will solidify in the pipes and clog them up.



It really depends on the oil and grease. General rule: if it doesn't solidify in your refrigerator it's not going to clog your pipes. Liquid oils like olive oil, corn oil, etc, would fall into that category. Now whether those same oils are good for a septic system or municipal wastewater system is a different story.

In the Smithee household, we don't use that much oil to begin with, and especially NEVER use solid or hydrogenated greases like lard or Crisco. I'm inclined to believe that the occasional few tablespoons of olive oil or sesame oil or peanut oil that gets washed down the drain along with soap and water falls into the "doesn't matter" category.
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Posted 24 November 2018 - 01:25 PM

View PostMontyPython, on 24 November 2018 - 01:14 PM, said:

I'm the cook/dishwasher in my family, and this, PRECISELY, is the reason I don't allow anybody else to "help" me wash dishes. Incredibly, there are lots of people who seem to be unaware there isn't a garbage disposal in every sink. My daughter-in-law for example (bless her heart) tries to "help out" after meals, but she just scrapes whole hunks & chunks & scraps into the sink before washing! I try to pound it into her brain that stuff goes in the garbage, not down the sink. But she just never remembers. So she's just banned from the kitchen, LOL.


Even if a sink has a garbage disposal in it, it does not work like a Star Trek transporter, disintegrating anything you put into it. My father told me about a woman who cast candles in her kitchen. She poured the leftover molten wax down the garbage grinder. When the hot wax met the cold water and metal in the garbage grinder, it immediately solidified and the grinder stopped dead. Her husband took it apart to try to scrape the hard wax out of it but in the end there was no solution but to replace the grinder.
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Posted 24 November 2018 - 01:32 PM

View PostMontyPython, on 24 November 2018 - 01:14 PM, said:

I'm the cook/dishwasher in my family, and this, PRECISELY, is the reason I don't allow anybody else to "help" me wash dishes. Incredibly, there are lots of people who seem to be unaware there isn't a garbage disposal in every sink. My daughter-in-law for example (bless her heart) tries to "help out" after meals, but she just scrapes whole hunks & chunks & scraps into the sink before washing! I try to pound it into her brain that stuff goes in the garbage, not down the sink. But she just never remembers. So she's just banned from the kitchen, LOL.

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No garbage disposal here either. We've got a "standard" strainer as part of the sink:

https://images.homedepot-static.com/productImages/2f47c288-f36c-468c-82f7-b50ede24b1e0/svn/stainless-steel-glacier-bay-sink-strainers-7047-104ss-64_400_compressed.jpg

Problem is, turn it 90 degrees and it becomes a stopper... which of course always happens at the most inconvenient possible moment when rinsing out a pan or whatever. So I always use a wire basket strainer for such things:

https://images.homedepot-static.com/productImages/f057f878-7377-4ad6-92f5-0b014534f87d/svn/stainless-steel-danco-sink-strainers-88821-64_400_compressed.jpg
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Posted 24 November 2018 - 01:32 PM

View PostMartin, on 24 November 2018 - 01:25 PM, said:

Even if a sink has a garbage disposal in it, it does not work like a Star Trek transporter, disintegrating anything you put into it. My father told me about a woman who cast candles in her kitchen. She poured the leftover molten wax down the garbage grinder. When the hot wax met the cold water and metal in the garbage grinder, it immediately solidified and the grinder stopped dead. Her husband took it apart to try to scrape the hard wax out of it but in the end there was no solution but to replace the grinder.


Yup, same goes for bones - Some people just can't seem to grasp the fact that bones DON'T go down the sink, EVEN IF THERE IS a garbage disposal.

Sheesh.

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Posted 24 November 2018 - 01:38 PM

View PostDean Adam Smithee, on 24 November 2018 - 01:32 PM, said:

No garbage disposal here either. We've got a "standard" strainer as part of the sink:

https://images.homedepot-static.com/productImages/2f47c288-f36c-468c-82f7-b50ede24b1e0/svn/stainless-steel-glacier-bay-sink-strainers-7047-104ss-64_400_compressed.jpg

Problem is, turn it 90 degrees and it becomes a stopper... which of course always happens at the most inconvenient possible moment when rinsing out a pan or whatever. So I always use a wire basket strainer for such things:

https://images.homedepot-static.com/productImages/f057f878-7377-4ad6-92f5-0b014534f87d/svn/stainless-steel-danco-sink-strainers-88821-64_400_compressed.jpg


I gotta get me one of those wire basket strainers.

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Posted 24 November 2018 - 01:44 PM

View PostMartin, on 24 November 2018 - 12:31 PM, said:

None of you read the story. It says "Brown Friday does not get its name primarily for toilet-related plumbing issues. On the whole, plumbers say the biggest issues usually involve the kitchen sink."

Buzzkill :P
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Posted 24 November 2018 - 01:47 PM

View Postgrimreefer, on 24 November 2018 - 01:44 PM, said:

Buzzkill :P

Help us Obi Wan Pedantic, you're our only hope! :whistling:
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Posted 24 November 2018 - 02:01 PM

 Dean Adam Smithee, on 24 November 2018 - 01:19 PM, said:

It really depends on the oil and grease. General rule: if it doesn't solidify in your refrigerator it's not going to clog your pipes. Liquid oils like olive oil, corn oil, etc, would fall into that category. Now whether those same oils are good for a septic system or municipal wastewater system is a different story.

In the Smithee household, we don't use that much oil to begin with, and especially NEVER use solid or hydrogenated greases like lard or Crisco. I'm inclined to believe that the occasional few tablespoons of olive oil or sesame oil or peanut oil that gets washed down the drain along with soap and water falls into the "doesn't matter" category.

Those oils you've mentioned do clog drains.

You've forgotten about the biological aspects that come into play.

These oils become mixed with water and other solids from many things, especilly with the minerals added to the hard city water that protect the pipes from corrosion. Bacteria and microbes in the environment begin to consume them. The reaction from such makes them congeal and combine with the hard minerals such as calcium and they become rock hard. So just because those oils they don't solidify in their nice clean container does not mean that they won't congeal in the drains because they definitely do.

I know this from job experience.

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Posted 24 November 2018 - 02:18 PM

View PostSeverian, on 24 November 2018 - 01:47 PM, said:

Help us Obi Wan Pedantic, you're our only hope! :whistling:


Hey, that's ME! I refuse to let anybody else usurp my title.

Harrumph!

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Posted 24 November 2018 - 02:40 PM

I am fortunate enough to be married to a man that was a plumber in his pre-Navy life. For emergencies, I don't have to look far for help. And I hate garbage disposals. I, too, have a strainer to catch the unwanted crap from going down the drain.
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Posted 24 November 2018 - 03:38 PM

View PostUSNRETWIFE, on 24 November 2018 - 02:40 PM, said:

I am fortunate enough to be married to a man that was a plumber in his pre-Navy life. For emergencies, I don't have to look far for help. And I hate garbage disposals. I, too, have a strainer to catch the unwanted crap from going down the drain.


Yep. I have a garbage disposal but rarely run it.

It's easier, and makes more sense too me, to use a basket strainer to catch the chunks. :shrug:

I've never had to call a plumber.
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