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#1 User is offline   Ladybird 

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Posted 29 November 2018 - 08:38 AM

Lobbyists have paid five of the Senators who shot down Yemen bill
by Faisal Edroos
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At least five of the 37 Republican Senators who voted against advancing a resolution limiting the United States' involvement in the war in Yemen have received campaign contributions from pro-Saudi lobbying groups.

Roy Blunt, John Boozman, Richard Burr, Mike Crapo and Tim Scott all received financial contributions from firms representing Saudi interests between 2016 and 2017, according to a recent investigation by the Centre for International Policy (CIP).

All five Republicans voted on Wednesday against advancing the resolution, which, if passed, would force the US to limit its support for the Saudi-UAE war in Yemen.

The Trump administration has threatened to veto the resolution if it passes.

Blunt, one of the two Senators from Missouri, received at least $19,200 in campaign contributions from firms representing Saudi Arabia in 2017, the CIP said, with Boozman, Burr, Crapo and Scott, representing Arkansas, North Carolina, Idaho and South Carolina respectively, receiving contributions ranging from $1,000-$2,500 between 2016 and 2017.


Last year, the oil-rich kingdom spent at least $24m to influence US policy and public opinion, according to disclosures to the Department of Justice made available through the Center for Responsive Politics' Foreign Lobby Watch tool.

Around $18m of that was paid to foreign agents acting on behalf of Saudi interests in 2017 and another $6m in spending has already been reported this year.

According to the CIP, it made Saudi Arabia one of the top 10 countries spending on influence and lobbying in the US.

But on Wednesday, the political donations appeared to have little effect when the US Senate opted to move forward with the resolution in a bipartisan 63-37 vote.

Delivering a massive blow to the Trump administration, Republican Senator Lindsey Graham said he flipped sides because of the way the government had handled the murder of journalist Jamal Khashoggi.

"I changed my mind because I'm pissed," Graham said following the vote.

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Posted 29 November 2018 - 09:34 AM

OMG!!!!! Politicians getting cash from lobbyists!?!? Yeah, THAT's never happened before. Ask Harry Reid and the rest of the democrat senators if they've ever been given "incentives" from groups looking to influence them. I bet if you looked deep enough (just under the surface, really) you would find that every politician on the national level has been paid by outside influences.

So, what I really want to know is if this is all you have? If it is, you really suck at the gotcha game. This doesn't even rise to the level of weak in the outrage department.
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Posted 29 November 2018 - 10:32 AM

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Senator Bernie Sanders, who co-sponsored the bill, said the time to end the US involvement in the war was now.

"We have already seen 85,000 children starved to death, the UN tells us that millions of people are facing starvation, 10,000 new cholera cases are developing each week because there is no clean drinking water in the country," Sanders said following the briefing.

"All of that was caused by the Saudi-led invasion of Yemen three years ago, led by a despotic, dishonest dictatorship."


Bernie doesn't know shi'ite. Iran backs the Houthis and Ali Abdullah Saleh's militia. That's why Saudi Arabia "invaded" Yemen to support the Yemeni government. The Yemeni civil war is a proxy between our ally and our enemy.

Also, only a handful of people in the world know Jamal Khashoggi's true fate. There has been no forensic evidence to conclude without reasonable doubt that the Saudis murdered him. They might have kidnapped him. One rumor is that Prince Mohammad bin Salman's brother Prince Ahmed bin Abdulaziz might be behind Khashoggi's disappearance in order to oust MbS and replace him on the throne.

One more thing. Yemen is also where Barack Obama authorized a drone strike to assassinate Anwar al-Awlaki, his son Abdulrahman Anwar al-Awlaki, and Samir Khan. All three were American citizens who were denied our Constitutional right to Due Process. Samir Khan also happened to be a "journalist".
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Posted 29 November 2018 - 10:56 AM

View Postgravelrash, on 29 November 2018 - 10:32 AM, said:

Bernie doesn't know shi'ite. Iran backs the Houthis and Ali Abdullah Saleh's militia. That's why Saudi Arabia "invaded" Yemen to support the Yemeni government. The Yemeni civil war is a proxy between our ally and our enemy.

Also, only a handful of people in the world know Jamal Khashoggi's true fate. There has been no forensic evidence to conclude without reasonable doubt that the Saudis murdered him. They might have kidnapped him. One rumor is that Prince Mohammad bin Salman's brother Prince Ahmed bin Abdulaziz might be behind Khashoggi's disappearance in order to oust MbS and replace him on the throne.

One more thing. Yemen is also where Barack Obama authorized a drone strike to assassinate Anwar al-Awlaki, his son Abdulrahman Anwar al-Awlaki, and Samir Khan. All three were American citizens who were denied our Constitutional right to Due Process. Samir Khan also happened to be a "journalist".

Oh, how cute! You're talking facts to liberals! /b46/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/Giggles.gif
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Posted 29 November 2018 - 11:58 AM

You seem to have more anger at the Senators who voted against it, who got campaign money from Saudi, then the ones who voted for it because they were "pissed". Just like you should never go grocery shopping when hungry, you should never legislate when angry.

Also, you didn't give us a reason that the other 32 voted against it. I guess they didn't fit into the "look they were bought by Saudi" narrative.
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Posted 29 November 2018 - 02:22 PM

The OP no doubt has no issue with unions buying off their chosen pet Leftist Democrat buddies. :whistling:

This post has been edited by RedSoloCup: 29 November 2018 - 02:26 PM

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Posted 29 November 2018 - 02:53 PM

View PostLadybird, on 29 November 2018 - 08:38 AM, said:



Blunt, one of the two Senators from Missouri, received at least $19,200 in campaign contributions from firms representing Saudi Arabia in 2017, the CIP said, with Boozman, Burr, Crapo and Scott, representing Arkansas, North Carolina, Idaho and South Carolina respectively, receiving contributions ranging from $1,000-$2,500 between 2016 and 2017.


Last year, the oil-rich kingdom spent at least $24m to influence US policy and public opinion, according to disclosures to the Department of Justice made available through the Center for Responsive Politics' Foreign Lobby Watch tool.




So these 5 senators COMBINED received AT MAXIMUM less than $30,000 of a possible $24,000,000.

If the Saudis spent that $24,000,000 equally amongst all 535 men and women of congress, they would have received $44,859.81 each. These 5 guys COMBINED didn't even receive 2/3rds of that amount......and it is somehow a story?



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Posted 29 November 2018 - 03:29 PM

 Tea Party Hooligan, on 29 November 2018 - 09:34 AM, said:

OMG!!!!! Politicians getting cash from lobbyists!?!? Yeah, THAT's never happened before. Ask Harry Reid and the rest of the democrat senators if they've ever been given "incentives" from groups looking to influence them. I bet if you looked deep enough (just under the surface, really) you would find that every politician on the national level has been paid by outside influences.

So, what I really want to know is if this is all you have? If it is, you really suck at the gotcha game. This doesn't even rise to the level of weak in the outrage department.


I never claimed that Dem senators didnít take foreign contributions to influence policy. I am somewhat surprised that everyone is fine with it.

 Dutch13, on 29 November 2018 - 02:53 PM, said:

So these 5 senators COMBINED received AT MAXIMUM less than $30,000 of a possible $24,000,000.

If the Saudis spent that $24,000,000 equally amongst all 535 men and women of congress, they would have received $44,859.81 each. These 5 guys COMBINED didn't even receive 2/3rds of that amount......and it is somehow a story?


The OP didnít state that the 24mil was spent exclusively on political contributions.
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Posted Yesterday, 12:04 AM

View PostLadybird, on 29 November 2018 - 03:29 PM, said:

I never claimed that Dem senators didnít take foreign contributions to influence policy. I am somewhat surprised that everyone is fine with it.

Not fine with it at all. Ideally there would be no foreign money influence at all, but realistically it's not going to go away. If you really want to get upset, dig a little and see how much influence China has bought/is buying. Explains a lot as to the way D.C. is behaving.
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Posted Yesterday, 10:06 AM

Well, I am sure Bill and Hillary can offer lot's of advice on how to handle Saudi donations, they have taken 10's of thousands(or is it more?)

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Posted Yesterday, 10:08 AM

 oki, on 30 November 2018 - 10:06 AM, said:

Well, I am sure Bill and Hillary can offer lot's of advice on how to handle Saudi donations, they have taken 10's of thousands(or is it more?)

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